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army in afghanistan. it is his fourth visit to the country. he spent time with the 4th airbourne, patrolling in remote areas and engaging the security situation. obama announced a plan to bring 10,000 troops home from afghanistan by the end of the year. >> it depends on where you are. my experience is in the east. i have a little experience in the south. in the south, there is a lot of open combat. this is the headquarters of the taliban. >> in the east the violence depends on where you are. these to have strong relationships with kabul, with a lot of traffic. today, these are what i call, bombing galleries, where the coalition troops and a large coalition presence is trying very hard to like this town in order to protect this. but every step that they take, they are threatened. thousands every year, that are killing hundreds of native troops, and many times the number of afghans. as we move closer to the border, and you had se, the threat will change. this is not so much ied's because there is less vehicle traffic. the coalition soldiers and
army in afghanistan. it is his fourth visit to the country. he spent time with the 4th airbourne, patrolling in remote areas and engaging the security situation. obama announced a plan to bring 10,000 troops home from afghanistan by the end of the year. >> it depends on where you are. my experience is in the east. i have a little experience in the south. in the south, there is a lot of open combat. this is the headquarters of the taliban. >> in the east the violence depends on where...
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participating in the libyan and afghanistan war efforts as part of nato and just last winter there were dozens of islamic militants arrested throughout western europe in connection with the planned bombings. how have the people of norway reacted to this terrible event and one of the government's response to the attacks yes well police have told people to stay out of the city center to avoid using mobile phones the exits to the borders of norway which shots immediately after the blast and roads leading into and trains leading into the capital we're also halted now we've we've heard that soldiers are on the streets with machine guns police also and it's being called the worst attack since world war two perhaps the worst shooting spree in history. ok bushell thank you for that update. well for more on the possible motives behind the attacks let's cross live now to keith harmon snow u.s. based war correspondent and dependent investigator i thank you for joining us on r.t. . can you can you hear us actually yes you can yes officials in norway have described the attacks as the work of a mad m
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interest in afghanistan. it does not want to have a hostile afghanistan at its back. and, therefore, whether it wants to or not have to take responsibility for afghanistan. the american goal is that al qaeda should not be in afghanistan, but al qaeda is in yemen, somalia and cleveland trend what the point is if you look at south asia, do you disagree with those who consider pakistan and the pakistan-afghan to really be the most dangerously unstable part of the world? >> guest: i would not quote them as dangerous and stable part of the world. i think iran is potentially more, but it's not worth having -- it is certainly, the question had to get back into shape? de- stabilizing pakistan to the point that it collapses i don't think would create the security, making it the responsibly of pakistan, you know, make it what it is the it is a more interesting outcome. but the problem is that we have to ask more fundamental question. why are we in afghanistan, what was the strategy that president obama had in mind? president bush's strategy was a more modest one upholding key a
interest in afghanistan. it does not want to have a hostile afghanistan at its back. and, therefore, whether it wants to or not have to take responsibility for afghanistan. the american goal is that al qaeda should not be in afghanistan, but al qaeda is in yemen, somalia and cleveland trend what the point is if you look at south asia, do you disagree with those who consider pakistan and the pakistan-afghan to really be the most dangerously unstable part of the world? >> guest: i would not...
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troops in southern afghanistan. then, representative thaddeus mccotter announces his candidacy for president. >> tune in to c-span this independent state. panelists discuss if the united states can remain united. >> at the political level, we are more divided. you look at partisan polarization at any point since the civil war and reconstruction. >> then, religion, bonds, and the death penalty. later, nixon white house insiders discuss his foreign policy. this monday on c-span. for the complete schedule, go to c-span.org. >> david axe was imbedded with the u.s. army in afghanistan. it is his fourth visit to the country. he spent time with the 4th airbourne, patrolling in remote areas and engaging the security situation. obama announced a plan to bring 10,000 troops home from afghanistan by the end of the year. >> it depends on where you are. my experience is in the east. i have a little experience in the south. in the south, there is a lot of open combat. this is the headquarters of the taliban. >> in the east the vi
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if i protest, they say you support nato. >> this is what progress lookalike in afghanistan. so much so, there is to be a further cut in british troops with a few hundred soldiers. but native troops still far outnumber the afghan troops. what is needed to hand over a village like this to the local troops altogether? >> a regular police presence. that's what we need. regular patrolling. people of confidence to be able to come and talk to the police. >> but in this village, the police seemed willing to help themselves to food, just like a taliban. they did find a taliban and decisions-in a melon patch. -- a taliban munitions patch they were sniping at the soldiers operation we joined. the afghan forces lacked much and british officers say privately they are -- there is still a big problem with corruption. nato's deployment has peaked. the question now is will the afghans be able to do the job of the british soldiers have been doing as they start to leave? >> that is the question indeed. on the ground, the fighting continues. in washington, three american senators, three -- two
if i protest, they say you support nato. >> this is what progress lookalike in afghanistan. so much so, there is to be a further cut in british troops with a few hundred soldiers. but native troops still far outnumber the afghan troops. what is needed to hand over a village like this to the local troops altogether? >> a regular police presence. that's what we need. regular patrolling. people of confidence to be able to come and talk to the police. >> but in this village, the...
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presence in the southern afghanistan so by the u.s. leaving you're going to see the taliban basically not want to fight as much because they're supposed to be fighting it's kind of conspiracy and afghan peace process take place because afghans generally speaking don't want to silly fight with each other they just simply want to live in coexist for the most part when i'm away but then how do you reconcile that a lot of the civilian casualties that have been reported over the last year a lot of the civilian casualties there are believed to be from taliban. well the taliban certainly is. to itself and certainly has killed a lot of afghans also done a lot of harm but remember the taliban is somewhere around fifteen to eighteen thousand strong in southern and eastern afghanistan so not a major part of the population but it's more of the mindset of trying to control things so basically as the taliban comes into the peace process comes into the afghan government the taliban will begin to reconcile itself with the population and become more co
presence in the southern afghanistan so by the u.s. leaving you're going to see the taliban basically not want to fight as much because they're supposed to be fighting it's kind of conspiracy and afghan peace process take place because afghans generally speaking don't want to silly fight with each other they just simply want to live in coexist for the most part when i'm away but then how do you reconcile that a lot of the civilian casualties that have been reported over the last year a lot of...
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participating in the libyan and afghanistan war if it's the fault of nato and just last winter there were dozens of islamic militants arrested throughout western europe in connection with with planned bombings. of the people of norway reacting to this terrible event and one of the government's response to the attacks. yes well the police have told people to stay out of the city center to avoid using mobile for the exits to the borders of norway where shots immediately after the blast roads leading into and trains leading into the capital rules so holds it now we've heard that soldiers are on the streets with machine guns police are also being called the worst attack since world war two the worst shooting spree in history. ok thank you for that update. for more on the possible motives behind the attacks let's cross live now to keith harmon snow u.s. based war correspondent pendent investigator and i thank you for joining us on. can you can you hear a section yes you can yes officials in norway have described the attacks as the work of a mad men could individual crime on such a scale i
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and dea a in their out hill battle to fight against corruption and drug trafficking in afghanistan at the end of the day this a victory personified in karzai brother fortune and his sudden death symbolize the death of american policy illusions in afghanistan. leading athletes are inspired to become top india sports by one russian golf prodigy has used his talent for a very different tracing his long lost brother and sister aren't easy different words on the teenager's drive to use a fair way to find his family he might have a smoother swing but from the outside nicholai looks no different than a pampered junior players and this hyper exclusive moscow golf club this couldn't be further from the truth we call like alecky was an old all from when he was adopted by an american family you can never say that or think his life is easy and basically they make you feel like it's nothing you're nothing to me when i came to united states i had a lot of problems emotionally and credible young man he is someone who has taken on many challenges in his life and he's always overcome then came the gul
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commander in afghanistan general petraeus and u.s. secretary of defense robert gates regarding the precipitous u.s. political and military withdrawal that after the soviet forces withdraw from afghanistan the real wrong way for the united states was eat and friends in pakistan and afghanistan as a proxy anti soviet jihad in the late seventy's and this is the main political military and security wonder that the united states has committed in this region the united states is doomed to deal b of their blow back off its own policy back in late seventy's in pakistan and afghanistan. the russian pilots taking to the skies in small airplanes have long been grounded by unimaginable about some people work recently at the center there has dropped some of the rebels to clear in the runway for more frequent flights over many obstacles that remain before it's the golden age for us in small aviation these yes that's nice but that's the experience. dozens of pilots swinging their way across russia for the second annual cuban air show the most small
commander in afghanistan general petraeus and u.s. secretary of defense robert gates regarding the precipitous u.s. political and military withdrawal that after the soviet forces withdraw from afghanistan the real wrong way for the united states was eat and friends in pakistan and afghanistan as a proxy anti soviet jihad in the late seventy's and this is the main political military and security wonder that the united states has committed in this region the united states is doomed to deal b of...
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well i think it will convince more people in afghanistan the war is helping them but the is that true the killing and injuring more and more people as you said in your introduction the latest un report shows the last six months have been the most deadly since the war in afghanistan started for the civilian. the real problem i think is that we have to make this an issue not just in afghanistan where people are very aware of what is happening but also here in britain where much of business isn't very much for paul two zero zero zero for nato as part of the military coalition in afghanistan they did promise to reduce civilian casualties are received that it's not actually working. well actually the policy of the americans in the last year has been to increase airstrikes and therefore the civilian casualties of increased at least in part because of this so isn't working isn't going to work when you have a war where the reserves growing insurgency will be all sorts of people who are victims of this and children are obviously one of the worst of the casualties the only solution to this is t
well i think it will convince more people in afghanistan the war is helping them but the is that true the killing and injuring more and more people as you said in your introduction the latest un report shows the last six months have been the most deadly since the war in afghanistan started for the civilian. the real problem i think is that we have to make this an issue not just in afghanistan where people are very aware of what is happening but also here in britain where much of business isn't...
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commander in afghanistan general petraeus and u.s. secretary of defense robert gates regarding their chrysippus us political and military withdrawal after the soviet forces was drove from afghanistan very real the wrong way for the united states was eat and friends into pakistan and afghanistan as a proxy and i saw me jihad in the late seventy's this is their main polina can all be in which iran security and wonder are there the united states has committed in this region the united states is...
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if i protest, they say you support nato. >> this is what progress lookalike in afghanistan. so much so, there is to be a further cut in british troops with a few hundred soldiers. but native troops still far outnumber the afghan troops. what is needed to hand over a village like this to the local troops altogether? >> a regular police presence. that's what we need. regular patrolling. people of confidence to be able to come and talk to the police. >> but in this village, the police seemed willing to help themselves to food, just like a taliban. they did find a taliban and decisions-in a melon patch. -- a taliban munitions patch they were sniping at the soldiers operation we joined. the afghan forces lacked much and british officers say privately they are -- there is still a big problem with corruption. nato's deployment has peaked. the question now is will the afghans be able to do the job of the british soldiers have been doing as they start to leave? >> that is the question indeed. on the ground, the fighting continues. in washington, three american senators, three -- two
if i protest, they say you support nato. >> this is what progress lookalike in afghanistan. so much so, there is to be a further cut in british troops with a few hundred soldiers. but native troops still far outnumber the afghan troops. what is needed to hand over a village like this to the local troops altogether? >> a regular police presence. that's what we need. regular patrolling. people of confidence to be able to come and talk to the police. >> but in this village, the...
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i think it will just convince more people in afghanistan that the war isn't helping them but it is actually killing and injuring more and more people so isn't working isn't going to work when you have a war where the risk of growing insurgency will play all sorts of people who are victims of this and children are obviously one of the worst of the casualties the only solution to this is to sell you a war isn't working it has there is absolutely no justification for nato forces to be there and that they should withdraw the troops this is now coming up to the tenth anniversary of the war and there is absolutely no question that this war is not getting better it is getting worse it is almost certain that whatever settlement eventually comes in afghanistan it will involve the taliban in some capacity nearly everybody now recognizes this so what is the point of continuing this war the point of continuing this war is because the americans and the british and their allies cannot admit defeat in the second country are to what happened in iraq that is why they're there they are there in order to prop
i think it will just convince more people in afghanistan that the war isn't helping them but it is actually killing and injuring more and more people so isn't working isn't going to work when you have a war where the risk of growing insurgency will play all sorts of people who are victims of this and children are obviously one of the worst of the casualties the only solution to this is to sell you a war isn't working it has there is absolutely no justification for nato forces to be there and...
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commander in afghanistan general petraeus and u.s. secretary of defense robert gates regarding the chrysippus us political and military withdrawal after this soviet forces was drove from afghanistan their real the wrong way for the united states was read and friends into pakistan and afghanistan as it proceeds anti-semitic jihad in the late seventy's this is the main holy nickleby illiterate insecurity and wonder of the united states has committed in this region the united states is doomed to...
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from afghanistan. can i commend him for setting a timetable because that is the way to accelerate the process in kabul and make president hamid karzai set up and engage in some of the talks that are already taking place and i agree with my right hon. friend is wrong to internationalize this process. it has to be done through tribal structures in afghanistan and fought by themselves and for themselves. is not something we can supervise from the un. >> i thank my hon. friend for his questioning. across the house -- has to the afghan led. we don't want to see a sort of bad tribal -- that would lead to future instability. clearly it has got to be a proper reconciliation process. what i am scene and a timetable has existed, is a positive engagement from afghanistan and pakistan in talking about their shared future and in the end we can push and encourage and work with but in the end those two countries have to make decisions together about how to be more secure. >> welcome the fact that peace negotiations a
from afghanistan. can i commend him for setting a timetable because that is the way to accelerate the process in kabul and make president hamid karzai set up and engage in some of the talks that are already taking place and i agree with my right hon. friend is wrong to internationalize this process. it has to be done through tribal structures in afghanistan and fought by themselves and for themselves. is not something we can supervise from the un. >> i thank my hon. friend for his...
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back to afghanistan, perception is reality. the difference between transitioning to afghan control in a reasoned way and withdrawalling from the fight is american is important. the perception i am finding on the ground that the announcement of the president is more of a withdrawn than transition. that has to be corrected or it could jeopardize the whole operations. remember what iran is up to. remember what syria is up to. remember what the taliban and our al-qaeda want. they want to dominate this region, to destroy what we're fighting for. which is basic freedom. we are in a titanic struggle with unsave sorry characters -- unsavory characters. the outcome does matter to us. if we win and help the people, we're all safer. if the people fight back in the region are overtaken by the forces we'll all pay a price. a lot is at stake. >> i agree, and i just want to add on the fourth of july weekend, we're here because we were attacked from here on 9/11. and if we don't succeed here, and the taliban comes back in to power, we'll be at
back to afghanistan, perception is reality. the difference between transitioning to afghan control in a reasoned way and withdrawalling from the fight is american is important. the perception i am finding on the ground that the announcement of the president is more of a withdrawn than transition. that has to be corrected or it could jeopardize the whole operations. remember what iran is up to. remember what syria is up to. remember what the taliban and our al-qaeda want. they want to dominate...
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not getting better in scaling worse it is almost certain that whatever settlement eventually comes in afghanistan it will involve the taliban in some capacity and nearly everybody now recognizes this so what is the point of continuing this war the point of continuing this war is because the americans and the british and their allies cannot admit defeat in the second country after what happened in iraq that is why they're there they're there in order to prop up a government that they have no real confidence in they are there in order to save their own faces they are there to protect their interests they're not there to protect the ordinary afghans and we've seen this again this week. i was lazy german from the stop the war coalition. now when it comes to the dating game when russia really is a man's world there are ten million more women there mare the country forcing sound to turn to unconventional methods to find love even if that means a better half as more like several better choirs are to single more even after our imports. and these sundry a father of three and husband of three and other yea
not getting better in scaling worse it is almost certain that whatever settlement eventually comes in afghanistan it will involve the taliban in some capacity and nearly everybody now recognizes this so what is the point of continuing this war the point of continuing this war is because the americans and the british and their allies cannot admit defeat in the second country after what happened in iraq that is why they're there they're there in order to prop up a government that they have no...
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led coalition is losing ground in afghanistan or the number of casualties continue to rise. they can't win by staying in fact their presence is becoming the main catalyst for the armed insurgency not only the telegram but maybe one hundred forty armed groups and they can't leave either because if they leave there will be a perception that the u.s. and nato were defeated by an armed insurgency but this dilemma must be solved some way so ultimately the united states cannot prevail the assassination of karzai as brother and his inner circle shows that the edifice of the karzai regime necessary at least to get an afghan face to the nato occupation that itself is now crumbling these armed attacks these assassination attempts are designed to create panic and i think in all likelihood they are creating panic within a very hard to foundation of the karzai government the u.s. is losing grown steadily it's spending one hundred twenty billion dollars a year that's an increasing amount from the treasury that's already drained based on huge budget deficits here the number of casualties o
led coalition is losing ground in afghanistan or the number of casualties continue to rise. they can't win by staying in fact their presence is becoming the main catalyst for the armed insurgency not only the telegram but maybe one hundred forty armed groups and they can't leave either because if they leave there will be a perception that the u.s. and nato were defeated by an armed insurgency but this dilemma must be solved some way so ultimately the united states cannot prevail the...
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want to keep private armies on the ground in iraq and afghanistan. well i mean it's a good it's a good question for iraq i mean the troops are going from fifty thousand or you know just under fifty thousand right now to nothing basically you know by the end of the year and so this you know the embassy doesn't rely on the military for their security after two thousand and eleven for the military to do that they need to sign a new security agreement because this the u.s. forces have rules of engagement in iraq right now where they can defend themselves without getting prosecuted by the iraqi courts because of the security agreement that the iraqi government right now is trying to sign that either a new agreement which i doubt they'll do but they'll come up with some type of memorandum of agreement to have trainers in iraq in two thousand and twelve and beyond but those trainers and going to be authorized to protect you know security you know the embassy personnel the embassy has to make its own agreements with the g. eight it with the government of ira
want to keep private armies on the ground in iraq and afghanistan. well i mean it's a good it's a good question for iraq i mean the troops are going from fifty thousand or you know just under fifty thousand right now to nothing basically you know by the end of the year and so this you know the embassy doesn't rely on the military for their security after two thousand and eleven for the military to do that they need to sign a new security agreement because this the u.s. forces have rules of...
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led coalition is losing ground in afghanistan while the number of casualties continues to rise. they can't win by staying in fact their presence is becoming the main catalyst for the armed insurgency not only the taliban but maybe one hundred forty armed groups and they can't leave either because if they leave there will be a perception that the u.s. and nato were defeated by an armed insurgency but this dilemma must be solved some way so ultimately the united states cannot prevail the assassination of karzai as brother and his inner circle shows that the edifice of the karzai regime necessary at least to get afghan face to the nato occupation that itself is now crumbling and attacks these assassination attempts are designed to create panic and i think in all likelihood they are creating panic within the very heart the foundation of the karzai government the u.s. is losing ground steadily at spending one hundred twenty billion dollars a year that's an increasing amount from the treasury that's already drained based on huge budget deficits here the number of casualties on the afg
led coalition is losing ground in afghanistan while the number of casualties continues to rise. they can't win by staying in fact their presence is becoming the main catalyst for the armed insurgency not only the taliban but maybe one hundred forty armed groups and they can't leave either because if they leave there will be a perception that the u.s. and nato were defeated by an armed insurgency but this dilemma must be solved some way so ultimately the united states cannot prevail the...
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brothers in southern afghanistan was the total failure and defeat for f.b.i. and dea a in their of hill battle to fight against corruption and drug trafficking in afghanistan at the end of the day they see a victory personified in karzai brother fortune and his sudden death symbolize the death of american policy illusions in afghanistan. leading athletes are inspired to become top in the sports by one russian golf prodigy has used his talent for a very different tracing his long lost brother and sister are different ports on the teenager's drive to use the fairway to find his family he might have a smoother swing but from the outside nicholai looks no different to the pampered junior players in this hyper exclusive moscow golf club but this couldn't be further from the truth nikolai come alaska was an eleven year old all for when he was adopted by an american family and you can never say that orphan his life is easy you know and basically they make you feel like it's nothing you're nothing to me when i came to united states i had a lot of problems emotionally
brothers in southern afghanistan was the total failure and defeat for f.b.i. and dea a in their of hill battle to fight against corruption and drug trafficking in afghanistan at the end of the day they see a victory personified in karzai brother fortune and his sudden death symbolize the death of american policy illusions in afghanistan. leading athletes are inspired to become top in the sports by one russian golf prodigy has used his talent for a very different tracing his long lost brother...
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karzai brother in southern afghanistan was the total failure and defeat for f.b.i. and dea a in their odd hill battle to fight against corruption and drug trafficking in afghanistan at the end of the day they see a victory personified in karzai brother fortune and his sudden death symbolize the death of american policy illusions in afghanistan. if you want the best in life you've got to put the hours in something indians know all too well and they are reaping the benefits by working harder and longer than their western counterparts who joins the new delhi race. it's a busy city with busy people india is a rising economic locomotive so what's the driving force behind its success it could very well be that people like. both are co-directors of a small one import company called divine and is indians have developed a strong liking for french and spanish mintages young men are working overtime to fill their glasses you have to be very flexible with your working hours. engineers want to go to globalization and because of all you know you're interacting with so many people
karzai brother in southern afghanistan was the total failure and defeat for f.b.i. and dea a in their odd hill battle to fight against corruption and drug trafficking in afghanistan at the end of the day they see a victory personified in karzai brother fortune and his sudden death symbolize the death of american policy illusions in afghanistan. if you want the best in life you've got to put the hours in something indians know all too well and they are reaping the benefits by working harder and...
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and live from moscow now barack obama's recently announced afghanistan drawdown plan has been slammed by republicans they say withdrawing thirty three thousand troops by the end of next summer is too much of a military risk but i want to use it lauren that list finds out that the talk of change may just be a symbolic gesture but as there's no way in sight to the u.s. presence in the country. the aftermath of a taliban attack in kabul. a luxury hotel frequented by foreigners earlier this year taliban gunmen wearing suicide vests storm a guest house used by u.n. staffers. last year another attack on hotels is worth your. examples are strewn through the near decade war familiar aftermath we had anybody pegged down here in the south only now americans heard this declaration before news of the blast we're starting this drawdown from a position of strength about u.s. plans to begin pulling troops out of afghanistan but there are declarations on the ground from afghan activists of the military might that's not that different mark democracy never come by a clinician democracy never come by mi
and live from moscow now barack obama's recently announced afghanistan drawdown plan has been slammed by republicans they say withdrawing thirty three thousand troops by the end of next summer is too much of a military risk but i want to use it lauren that list finds out that the talk of change may just be a symbolic gesture but as there's no way in sight to the u.s. presence in the country. the aftermath of a taliban attack in kabul. a luxury hotel frequented by foreigners earlier this year...
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well the company is doing even bigger role in afghanistan with the u.s. about to double its private army to replace the party troops meanwhile the un wants tighter control over her scenarios to protect human rights as r.t.s. game reports it's more convenient for the u.s. to use hired guns since their actions slip under the radar. this iraqi men son nine year old allie khilnani was shot dead by private american war contractors four years ago his brain fell to the ground between my feet on the same day dozens of other innocent iraqis were shot by trigger happy us professional killers they shot life human trying to kill everyone if you see no one at blackwater the firm for whom the hired guns work has been punished for the massacre two other private american security companies were contracted to carry out interrogations at the notorious abu ghraib prison in iraq a name synonymous now with her rethinking on rights violations including porcher rape and murder the us supreme court recently threw out a lawsuit alleging abuse of prisoners by the contractors. in a
well the company is doing even bigger role in afghanistan with the u.s. about to double its private army to replace the party troops meanwhile the un wants tighter control over her scenarios to protect human rights as r.t.s. game reports it's more convenient for the u.s. to use hired guns since their actions slip under the radar. this iraqi men son nine year old allie khilnani was shot dead by private american war contractors four years ago his brain fell to the ground between my feet on the...
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in afghanistan than anyone else and has been implicated in a number of scandal. it's contractors that were accused of gunning down seventeen unarmed civilians in baghdad in two thousand and seven for which no one has been punished companies do an even bigger role in afghanistan with the u.s. about a double its private army to replace departing meanwhile the un wants tighter control over mercenaries to protect human rights but it's also use a guy name to report so it's more convenient for the u.s. to use hired guns since their actions slip under the radar. this iraqi men son nine year old allie khilnani was shot dead by private american war contractors four years ago his brain fell to the ground between life on the same day dozens of other innocent iraqis were shot right trigger happy u.s. professional killers they shot like they were trying to kill everyone if you'd seen no one of blackwater the firm for whom the hired guns work has been punished for the massacre two other private american security companies were contracted to carry out interrogations at the noto
in afghanistan than anyone else and has been implicated in a number of scandal. it's contractors that were accused of gunning down seventeen unarmed civilians in baghdad in two thousand and seven for which no one has been punished companies do an even bigger role in afghanistan with the u.s. about a double its private army to replace departing meanwhile the un wants tighter control over mercenaries to protect human rights but it's also use a guy name to report so it's more convenient for the...
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carves our brother in southern afghanistan was a total failure and defeat for ever and be a in their uphill battle to fight against corruption and drug trafficking in afghanistan at the end of the day they see a victory personified in karzai brother fortune and his sudden death symbolize the death of american policy illusions you know afghanistan. now if you want the best in life you gotta put the hours in am it's something indians know all too well and they are reaping the benefits by working harder and longer than their western counterparts i deserve an english who joins the new delhi rap race. it's a busy city with busy people india is a rising economic locomotive still what's the driving force behind its success it could very well be that people like. both are co-directors i was small one import company called divine and his indians have developed a strong liking for french and spanish language is young men are working overtime to fill their glasses you have to be very flexible with their working hours. engineers were globalization and because of all you know you interact with so
carves our brother in southern afghanistan was a total failure and defeat for ever and be a in their uphill battle to fight against corruption and drug trafficking in afghanistan at the end of the day they see a victory personified in karzai brother fortune and his sudden death symbolize the death of american policy illusions you know afghanistan. now if you want the best in life you gotta put the hours in am it's something indians know all too well and they are reaping the benefits by working...
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talking about the impact the war is having on afghanistan's civilian population. and always intelligence service says there's no evidence that it's connected to far right extremists in norway or elsewhere thirty two year old who admits killing seventy six people last friday claims he was part of a wider mission was loyal insists he is insane and didn't know what he was doing. reports his immigration message is one that has chilling echoes across europe. and ethnic hatred that led to the slaughter of scores of innocent young people and does prevent the massacre to which he freely admits was a justified strike against the political left for supporting open borders and multiculturalism and even though the staunchest of hardliners condemned great pics horrific actions anti immigration sentiment is growing across europe other groups express their condolences and then are quick and separate themselves from also quick to lay blame left wing politicians which they. are responsible because they allowed immigration happen and effectively pushed the sky to the edge it's a cr
talking about the impact the war is having on afghanistan's civilian population. and always intelligence service says there's no evidence that it's connected to far right extremists in norway or elsewhere thirty two year old who admits killing seventy six people last friday claims he was part of a wider mission was loyal insists he is insane and didn't know what he was doing. reports his immigration message is one that has chilling echoes across europe. and ethnic hatred that led to the...
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in afghanistan than anyone else and has been implicated in a number of scandals its contractors were accused of gunning down seventeen unarmed civilians in baghdad in two thousand and seven for which no one has been punished the company is due an even bigger role in afghanistan with the u.s. about. doubled its private army to replace the part of the troops meanwhile the un it wants tighter control over mercenaries to protect human rights results he's got each account reports it's more convenient for the un us rather to use hired guns since the actions of slip under the radar. this iraqi man son nine year old allie khilnani was shot dead by private american war contractors four years ago his brain fell to the ground between my feet on the same day dozens of other innocent iraqis were shot by trigger happy us professional killers they shot like they were trying to kill everyone they can see no one at blackwater the firm for whom the hired guns work has been punished for their massacre to other private american security companies were contracted to carry out interrogations at the notori
in afghanistan than anyone else and has been implicated in a number of scandals its contractors were accused of gunning down seventeen unarmed civilians in baghdad in two thousand and seven for which no one has been punished the company is due an even bigger role in afghanistan with the u.s. about. doubled its private army to replace the part of the troops meanwhile the un it wants tighter control over mercenaries to protect human rights results he's got each account reports it's more...
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in afghanistan it's reported human rights violations in the billings are committed by security firms on a regular basis to an expense to undermine call the horses' counterinsurgency efforts will start firing at anything that moves in general kill innocent afghans destroy property we're getting fairly consistent complaints about them everybody knows somebody who's been shot by the contractions. the lack of accountability has forced the united nations working group on mercenaries to push for specific international measures to regulate their activities especially now as u.s. military forces withdraw from iraq and afghanistan the number of contractors is said to grow dramatically u.s. . source many of the. functions to these security companies they are not regulated in that they are not control and this is what we are extremely concerned that what we call in is for relation to the national and at the international level so that. companies are accountable but washington is reluctant to lead an international body regulate their activities saying it will find ways to hold contractors accoun
in afghanistan it's reported human rights violations in the billings are committed by security firms on a regular basis to an expense to undermine call the horses' counterinsurgency efforts will start firing at anything that moves in general kill innocent afghans destroy property we're getting fairly consistent complaints about them everybody knows somebody who's been shot by the contractions. the lack of accountability has forced the united nations working group on mercenaries to push for...
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we have the war in iraq, muddled ending, war in afghanistan, mudd muddled. guns are not going to solve this problem. the days of the marshall plan, the idea we're going to poor hundreds or millions of dollars. this is a g to g movement, a generation to generation movement, realizing there's change there. we'll have to engage on a different level. >> you think what is going on here, the arab world is much kag up with the rest of the world? it's joining the modern world? >> i think that there's a lot of evidence that this is the beginning of that process. i have, ever since 9/11 been in the middle of this conversation about can we get along? in every one of those conversations people say where are the muslim moderates? i don't hear them. here they are. this is a group of people standing up. it doesn't say the fundamentalists have gone away. clearly they have not. they're in color of iran and hezbollah and hamas and the wahhabis are still out there. what we're seeing for the first time is the rise of this other story. and it's going to give people a clear choic
we have the war in iraq, muddled ending, war in afghanistan, mudd muddled. guns are not going to solve this problem. the days of the marshall plan, the idea we're going to poor hundreds or millions of dollars. this is a g to g movement, a generation to generation movement, realizing there's change there. we'll have to engage on a different level. >> you think what is going on here, the arab world is much kag up with the rest of the world? it's joining the modern world? >> i think...
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i think that it will just convince more people in afghanistan that the war isn't helping them but it is actually killing and injuring more and more people so isn't working isn't going to work when you have a war where the risk of growing insurgency will bring me all sorts of people who are victims of this and children are obviously one of the worst of the casualties the only solution to this is to sell you a war isn't working as there is absolutely no justification for the nato forces to be there and that they should withdraw the troops this is now coming up to the tenth anniversary of the war and there is absolutely no question that this war is not getting better it is getting worse it is almost certain that whatever settlement eventually comes in afghanistan it will involve the taliban in some capacity nearly everybody now recognizes this so what is the point of continuing this war the point of continuing this war is because the americans and the british and their allies cannot admit defeat in the second country after what happened in iraq that is why they're there they are there i
i think that it will just convince more people in afghanistan that the war isn't helping them but it is actually killing and injuring more and more people so isn't working isn't going to work when you have a war where the risk of growing insurgency will bring me all sorts of people who are victims of this and children are obviously one of the worst of the casualties the only solution to this is to sell you a war isn't working as there is absolutely no justification for the nato forces to be...
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started handing over control of some of afghanistan's provinces to local security forces and less than a week after the assassination of president karzai brother well for more on these latest developments some are joined from chicago by steven lemon a progressive radio news host and author stephen the half brother and a kid of the afghan president both killed in less than a week because i was saying just as the u.s. hands over power to local forces in parts of the country what do you make of the timing of this. i think the timing is mostly accidental but i recall an early article i wrote. several years ago i called it the over the last war and i mentioned that it was for. a president not only a story with a small security detail and not be practical the marine division to go and see him . to go to rehear fully but if he came up with a small security. agent he would last five minutes how about the resistance if ghana's want to liberate their country. or they'll take any opportunity they came here to target any of fish or if you were able in any tour group to really comes out no one woul
started handing over control of some of afghanistan's provinces to local security forces and less than a week after the assassination of president karzai brother well for more on these latest developments some are joined from chicago by steven lemon a progressive radio news host and author stephen the half brother and a kid of the afghan president both killed in less than a week because i was saying just as the u.s. hands over power to local forces in parts of the country what do you make of...
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in afghanistan it's reported that human rights violations and even killings are committed by security firms on a regular basis to an extent set to undermine call the show horses counterinsurgency efforts they'll start firing at anything that moves injure or kill innocent afghans and they'll destroy property we're getting fairly consistent complaints about them everybody knows somebody who's been shot by the contract is. the lack of accountability has forced the united nations working group on mercenaries to push for specific international measures to regulate their activities especially now as u.s. military forces withdraw from iraq and afghanistan the number of contractors is set to grow dramatically you know as. so many military and security functions to these security companies they are not regulated in that they are not controlled and this is were we are extremely concerned that what we are calling is for relation to the national at the international level so that. companies are accountable but washington is reluctant to lead an international body regulate their activities saying
in afghanistan it's reported that human rights violations and even killings are committed by security firms on a regular basis to an extent set to undermine call the show horses counterinsurgency efforts they'll start firing at anything that moves injure or kill innocent afghans and they'll destroy property we're getting fairly consistent complaints about them everybody knows somebody who's been shot by the contract is. the lack of accountability has forced the united nations working group on...
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defense has apologized after one of its attack helicopters one hundred five children by mistake in afghanistan according to the u.n. the number of civilians killed by nato airstrikes has gone up with the death toll this year alone standing at seventy nine anti-war activist lindsey german sayings it's time for the alliance to admit the failure of its afghan campaign i think it will just convince more people in afghanistan that the war isn't helping them but it is actually killing and injuring more and more people so isn't working isn't going to work when you have a war where the risk of growing insurgency will bring me all sorts of people who are victims of various and children are obviously one of the worst of the casualties the only solution to this is to say you war isn't working it has there is absolutely no justification for the nato forces to be there and that they should withdraw the troops this is now coming up to the tenth anniversary of the war and there is absolutely no question that this war is not getting better it is getting worse it is almost certain that whatever settlement even
defense has apologized after one of its attack helicopters one hundred five children by mistake in afghanistan according to the u.n. the number of civilians killed by nato airstrikes has gone up with the death toll this year alone standing at seventy nine anti-war activist lindsey german sayings it's time for the alliance to admit the failure of its afghan campaign i think it will just convince more people in afghanistan that the war isn't helping them but it is actually killing and injuring...
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anti-war activism brian becker thinks the coalition may be losing ground in afghanistan with a number of casualties rise. they can't win by staying in fact their presence is becoming the main catalyst for the armed insurgency not only the taliban but maybe one hundred forty armed groups and they can't leave either because if they leave there will be a perception that the us and nato were defeated by an armed insurgency but this dilemma must be solved some way so ultimately the united states cannot prevail the assassination of cars eyes brother and his inner circle shows that the edifice of the karzai regime necessary at least to give it afghan face to the nato occupation that itself is now crumbling and these armed attacks these assassination attempts are designed to create panic and i think in all likelihood they are creating panic within the very heart the foundation of the karzai government the u.s. is losing grown steadily it's spending one hundred twenty billion dollars a year that's an increasing amount from the treasury that's already drained based on huge budget deficits here
anti-war activism brian becker thinks the coalition may be losing ground in afghanistan with a number of casualties rise. they can't win by staying in fact their presence is becoming the main catalyst for the armed insurgency not only the taliban but maybe one hundred forty armed groups and they can't leave either because if they leave there will be a perception that the us and nato were defeated by an armed insurgency but this dilemma must be solved some way so ultimately the united states...
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plans to begin pulling troops out of afghanistan but there are declarations on the ground from afghan activists of the military might that's led to different mark them all close enough to come by a clinician the moccasin of a profile military invasion democracy never come by costs that thought my wife lost by muscle car quite bumping our wedding parties and in washington talk of winding down war in one country does not wind down talk of tackling the global terrorist threat as the focus seems to shift to neighbors should be refocusing resources on pakistan yemen somalia parts of north africa and other locations i've always believed pakistan is more special than what happens in afghanistan a change in the guard at the department of defense with robert gates retiring and former cia chief leon panetta getting sworn in signals this change of course to critics i see no difference between between him and robert gates and for afghanistan we now hear a presidential pledge to pull thirty three thousand troops out by september two thousand and twelve fully we're covering the surge at west point
plans to begin pulling troops out of afghanistan but there are declarations on the ground from afghan activists of the military might that's led to different mark them all close enough to come by a clinician the moccasin of a profile military invasion democracy never come by costs that thought my wife lost by muscle car quite bumping our wedding parties and in washington talk of winding down war in one country does not wind down talk of tackling the global terrorist threat as the focus seems to...
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drawn out drawdown i despite the obama plan for a massive pullout from afghanistan next year experts claim america is stuck there for years to come paying for the conflict with blood and money. also we look at how our free range cattle might help secure heart disease a groundbreaking new russian procedure. well denies of the pro palestinian flotilla have vowed to defy a greek sailing ban and to push ahead with their humanitarian mission to gaza at all costs about and came after a number of ships were found to be damaged but activists condemning what they said was sabotage by israeli security forces the government or the greek government rather offered to deliver the supplies through israel but that proposal was rejected tel aviv in turn is sworn to prevent the civilian fleet from reaching gaza a similar mission just over a year ago ended with nine people dead after israeli commandos stormed the flotilla british campaigner david helping who's been involved in transporting relief supplies to gaza so i don't see how his own vessel was attacked once in the same way or that full interview
drawn out drawdown i despite the obama plan for a massive pullout from afghanistan next year experts claim america is stuck there for years to come paying for the conflict with blood and money. also we look at how our free range cattle might help secure heart disease a groundbreaking new russian procedure. well denies of the pro palestinian flotilla have vowed to defy a greek sailing ban and to push ahead with their humanitarian mission to gaza at all costs about and came after a number of...
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live from moscow now barack obama's recently announced afghanistan drawdown plan has been. slammed by republicans they say withdrawing thirty three thousand troops by the end of next summer is too much of a military risk but i want to use it lauren that list finds out that the talk of change may just be a symbolic gesture as there is no end in sight to the u.s. presence in the country. the aftermath of a taliban attack in kabul. a luxury hotel frequented by foreigners earlier this year taliban gunmen wearing suicide vests storm a guest house used by u.n. staffers. last year another attack on hotels this is where the error your. examples are strewn through the near decade war familiar aftermath we have anybody pegged down here in the south only now americans heard this declaration before news of the blast we're starting this drawdown from position of strength about u.s. plans to begin pulling troops out of afghanistan but there are declarations on the ground from afghan activists of military might that selected different mark them all close enough to come by a completion dem
live from moscow now barack obama's recently announced afghanistan drawdown plan has been. slammed by republicans they say withdrawing thirty three thousand troops by the end of next summer is too much of a military risk but i want to use it lauren that list finds out that the talk of change may just be a symbolic gesture as there is no end in sight to the u.s. presence in the country. the aftermath of a taliban attack in kabul. a luxury hotel frequented by foreigners earlier this year taliban...
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strategy in afghanistan and the alyona show that's coming up next. are it's time for you said it i read it right take time to respond to my brilliant and engaging viewer comments on facebook twitter and you tube because when you've got something to say i do listen now first i want to respond to some positive feedback from a kind viewer on twitter doing walton tweeted the alone to show you are doing excellent work alone or the jeremy scahill interview last week was one of your best and i want to say thank you for the kind words i too really enjoyed the interview with jeremy last week and i think that it represents what our show aims to do at its best telling the stories that others can't or will not tell not surprisingly the cia scrambled to discredit scahill story throughout right through excuse me through outright denials and press releases and all of that was to be expected but that's why you're supposed to have the media to call them out when news organizations like a.b.c. they simply reprinted cia statements without an else of skepticism jeremy s
strategy in afghanistan and the alyona show that's coming up next. are it's time for you said it i read it right take time to respond to my brilliant and engaging viewer comments on facebook twitter and you tube because when you've got something to say i do listen now first i want to respond to some positive feedback from a kind viewer on twitter doing walton tweeted the alone to show you are doing excellent work alone or the jeremy scahill interview last week was one of your best and i want to...
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anti-war activism brian becker thinks the coalition may be losing ground in afghanistan or the number of casualties rise. they can't win by staying in fact their presence is becoming the main catalyst for the armed insurgency not only the telegram but maybe one hundred forty armed groups and they can't leave either because if they leave there will be a perception that the us and nato were defeated by an armed insurgency but this dilemma must be solved some way so ultimately the united states cannot prevail the assassination of karzai as brother and his inner circle shows that the edifice of the karzai regime necessary at least to give afghan face to the. nato occupation that itself is now crumbling these armed attacks these assassination attempts are designed to create panic and i think in all likelihood they are creating panic within the very heart the foundation of the karzai government the u.s. is losing grown steadily it's spending one hundred twenty billion dollars a year that's an increasing amount from the treasury that's already drained based on huge budget deficits here the n
anti-war activism brian becker thinks the coalition may be losing ground in afghanistan or the number of casualties rise. they can't win by staying in fact their presence is becoming the main catalyst for the armed insurgency not only the telegram but maybe one hundred forty armed groups and they can't leave either because if they leave there will be a perception that the us and nato were defeated by an armed insurgency but this dilemma must be solved some way so ultimately the united states...
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he promised to end but ten thousand troops may stay there the white house is certainly offering them afghanistan continues though he's announced a drawdown he promised to end the mindset that leads to war it's worth pointing out though that he wipes a war in libya and the guantanamo bay remains open and there are reports that secret prisons are remain open and allegations of abuse but he has ended some bush era torture practices such as waterboarding but he hasn't ever ordered a criminal investigation into allegations of detainees against george w. bush and other senior administration officials of bush's now this is something that human rights watch is asking obama to do so laura petter counterterrorism adviser for human rights watch is she disappointed with obama she was in our new york studio to answer that i first asked her though you know bush hasn't been in office for a while it's been over two years what is human rights watch done recently aside from issue this report to promote a point of view that bush has committed crimes that obama should investigate him for which is that. it calls on
he promised to end but ten thousand troops may stay there the white house is certainly offering them afghanistan continues though he's announced a drawdown he promised to end the mindset that leads to war it's worth pointing out though that he wipes a war in libya and the guantanamo bay remains open and there are reports that secret prisons are remain open and allegations of abuse but he has ended some bush era torture practices such as waterboarding but he hasn't ever ordered a criminal...
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plans to begin pulling troops out of afghanistan but there are declarations on the ground from afghan activists of military might that's look to different mark democracy never come by a democracy never come by military invasion democracy never come by cluster bomb by white phosphorus by muscle car by bumping our wedding parties and in washington talk of winding down war in one country does not wind down talk of tackling the global terrorist threat as the focus seems to shift to neighbors should be refocusing resources on pakistan yemen somalia parts of north africa and other locations i've always believed pakistan is more central to what happens in afghanistan a change in the guard at the department of defense with robert gates retiring and former cia chief leon panetta getting sworn in signals this change of course to critics i see no difference between and between him and robert gates and for afghanistan we now hear a presidential pledge to pull thirty three thousand troops out by september two thousand and twelve fully we're covering the surge i announced at west point well it cert
plans to begin pulling troops out of afghanistan but there are declarations on the ground from afghan activists of military might that's look to different mark democracy never come by a democracy never come by military invasion democracy never come by cluster bomb by white phosphorus by muscle car by bumping our wedding parties and in washington talk of winding down war in one country does not wind down talk of tackling the global terrorist threat as the focus seems to shift to neighbors should...
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now barack obama's that recently announced afghanistan drawdown plan has been slammed by republicans. they say withdrawing thirty three thousand troops by the end of next summer is too much of a military risk but artie's loyalist finds out that the talk of change may just be a symbolic gesture as there's no end in sight to the u.s. presence in the country. the aftermath of a taliban attack in kabul. a luxury hotel frequented by foreigners earlier this year taliban gunmen wearing suicide vests storm a guest house used by u.n. staffers. last year another attack on hotels this is where every year. examples are strewn through the near decade war familiar aftermath we have anybody pegged down here in the south only now americans heard this declaration before news of the blast we're starting this drawdown from a position of strength about u.s. plans to begin pulling troops out of afghanistan but there are declarations on the ground from afghan activists of military might that's looked a different mark democracy never come by a completion democracy never come by military invasion democracy n
now barack obama's that recently announced afghanistan drawdown plan has been slammed by republicans. they say withdrawing thirty three thousand troops by the end of next summer is too much of a military risk but artie's loyalist finds out that the talk of change may just be a symbolic gesture as there's no end in sight to the u.s. presence in the country. the aftermath of a taliban attack in kabul. a luxury hotel frequented by foreigners earlier this year taliban gunmen wearing suicide vests...
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want to keep private armies on the ground in iraq and afghanistan. well i mean it's a good it's a good question for rock i mean the troops are going from fifty thousand you know just under fifty thousand right now to nothing basically you know by the end of the year and so this is you know the embassy doesn't rely on the military for their security after two thousand and eleven for the military to do that they need to sign a new security agreement because they are u.s. forces have rules of engagement in iraq right now where they can defend themselves without getting prosecuted by the iraqi courts because of the security agreement that the iraqi government right now is trying to sign that either a new agreement which i doubt they'll do but they'll come up with some type of memorandum of agreement to have trainers in iraq in two thousand and twelve and beyond but those trainers aren't going to be authorized to protect you know security you know the embassy personnel the embassy has to make its own agreements with the it with the government of iraq and
want to keep private armies on the ground in iraq and afghanistan. well i mean it's a good it's a good question for rock i mean the troops are going from fifty thousand you know just under fifty thousand right now to nothing basically you know by the end of the year and so this is you know the embassy doesn't rely on the military for their security after two thousand and eleven for the military to do that they need to sign a new security agreement because they are u.s. forces have rules of...